seems like snowden and manning both had the feeling that the government was corrupt and somebody like them could fish around and make a fool of the gov. but not that they were you know lifers who knew the old line and when that long established line was crossed, then they blew the whistle. they went looking for a whistle after you know god or whatevers told them to. i don't think you can call manning naive.
it's kinda like the keith olbermann show never leaves the airways these days. worth remembering that secret prison's, torture, nsa all that was covered back in the w. days on countdown. i hear keith's fav. movie is splash. oh and pundits are worthless except when they pay you for your stats. to be a hard judge, wikileaks and co. will only be considered succesful if the next president of the usa (or maybe an eu power) runs on ending the war on terror. maybe paul and warren rock that slogan but h.r.c. (likely) isn't. or if b.h.o you know makes it his platform the last few years, like it's as or more important than climate change/immigration etc.. you know the countdown to the end of the v. war didn't last long after those leakers got a hold of it.
i have h.r.c. being the last d that many many grungers ever vote for. mainstream r have all the cool masks these days. my fav. is a totally unscientific poll but i think a generic r out polls a generic d in a rather large portion of the country. conspiricay theory! manning is a team obama spy ala scooter libby he might get a pardon and he did it to begin with because he did the math with x whispers factored in and he'd make a splash you know for good.
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